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Posted: **Fri May 06, 2011 2:05 am**

Heres a simple AVR code using C language to flash a single LED on PORTB

// F_CPU tells util/delay.h our clock frequency
#define F_CPU 8000000UL	// Clock frequency (8MHz)

#include <avr/io.h>            // avr input and output header
#include <util/delay.h>       // avr delay header
 
 int main (void)
 {
		 DDRB = 0xFF;	// all PORTB Outputs

			 while(1) // do forever...
				 {
                PORTB |=  1 << PB0;	// LED on
                _delay_loop_2(40000);
				   PORTB &= ~(1 << PB0);	// LED off
                _delay_loop_2(40000);
				}
 return 0;
 }

Posted: **Sat May 07, 2011 10:52 am**

I started looking into programming PIC's with C a couple of years ago and can see that the syntax is quite similar.

Be sure to keep us posted of your future endeavors!

Posted: **Sat May 07, 2011 4:13 pm**

Hi Gav,

What do the annotations |,& and ~ mean ?

PORTB |= 1

PORTB &= ~

I ask as this looks essentially C to me and may be a good way for me to learn it ( Damn ... I just know I'm going to get an arduino now )

Jay

Posted: **Sat May 07, 2011 8:33 pm**

Hi Jay

Has far as Im aware there is a slight difference between AVR and Arduino, the Arduino includes a cross platform IDE which will get you started quicker. Both use the C language but with some differences. (abit like Swordfish and Proton both Basic languages but slight differences)?.

PORTB |=

PORTB &= ~

The code that you pointed out Jay are bitwise operators in C as all I wanted to do was change bit0 of PORTB, the diagram below might help explain the bitwise operators in C better.

The one bitwise operator that confused me when I saw it was "~" bitwise operator but once you understand how it works its easy enough. The "~" is a bitwise complement (bitwise NOT), in other words this operator works like this:

So if we take the binary value 1.

00000001

Then if we ~1 using the "~" operator, this will flip the bits so the value is now.

11111110

Hope that helps you understand how the "~" operator works. the others which are "&" is a bitwise AND, and the "|" is bitwise OR operator.

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You could also write C code like this:

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PORTB = 0x01;  (which is Hex)

or

PORTB = 0b00000001; (which is binary)

or

PORTB = 1; (which is decimal)

all will set PORTB bit 0 high (logic 1).

Posted: **Mon May 09, 2011 5:16 pm**

Thanks Gav thats very helpful, I've yet to find any really good tutorials on C, I find it's syntax quite confusing what with all the parenthesis brackets etc.

Also can you recommend a starter board for and AVR ?

Thanks

Jay

Posted: **Tue May 10, 2011 3:59 am**

odessa wrote:I've yet to find any really good tutorials on C, I find it's syntax quite confusing what with all the parenthesis brackets etc.

Your right Jay I found it difficult finding a good tutorial on C too, spent alot of time searching google and just picked up bits of the syntax along the way, I can share some PDF files Ive come across which might come useful?

C language help.rar: (1.56 MiB) Downloaded 778 times

odessa wrote: Also can you recommend a starter board for and AVR ?

My knowledge of AVR development/starter boards are very slim if im honest, a friend of mine has the AVR STK500 board (cheaper on ebay),

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comes with a built in programmer and alot of options for different types of Atmel microchips, but the board only comes with 8 buttons/leds, but I think there is a replacement out for this board now called STK600.

Heres the introduction PDF file for the STK500 if you are interested?:

Introduction to the STK500.rar: (3.08 MiB) Downloaded 763 times

From a personal view I would recommend getting the AVR ISP mkII programmer, very cheap (abit like the Pickit2, hence the word "abit") but there is one down-side of this programmer

it doesn't supply power to your projects unlike the pickit2.. but easy enough to connect to a bread board, One other note that I have found with this programmer is that all your projects need a on board power supply (a simple voltage reg would do the trick) As there is what is known as a power supply buffer on the programmer, basically so the programmer knows if your Atmel microchip is a 3.3volt or 5v microchip.

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Posted: **Tue May 10, 2011 5:54 am**

Thanks Gav they are very very helpful and appreciated

I'll check out ebay and get a programmer this evening, any recommends for a good Atmel starter chip ?

With regards to the AVR programmer you might like this

Its by Dave Jones .... I love his channel on you tube ... He's a nutcase

... Very clever guy though,

Posted: **Tue May 10, 2011 6:37 am**

HaHa yeah Dave Jones, I like watching his Blogs.. Quite interesting!

(funny enough I was going to post that video).

Ummm ive just been using a 28pin - ATmega168 (ATMEGA168-20PU) seems to be good enough for what ive been messing with

Posted: **Tue May 10, 2011 7:04 am**

Heres a good tutorial for AVR

http://imakeprojects.com/Projects/avr-tutorial/

Posted: **Tue May 10, 2011 10:21 pm**

How have you found the learning curve of using AVR's with C as opposed to pics in basic?

Posted: **Wed May 11, 2011 4:46 am**

brad wrote:How have you found the learning curve of using AVR's with C as opposed to pics in basic?

Still prefer Basic (Swordfish) I have to say and PIC microchip, this was just an adventure. C language is harder to learn. The syntax of C as Jay pointed out is confusing, there seems alot of librarys out there for AVR C language to a company you with building your projects but a personal view I would'nt say I found one I was overwhelmed with, especially when trying to add a LCD to one of my project. In that case I guess you cant beat the support you get with Basic (Swordfish) and the librarys (modules) that you get.

I dont really want to go into the Pros and Cons of the two microchips but heres a good video

Posted: **Wed May 11, 2011 6:14 am**

Thanks for that extra info Gav. I am certainly not someone who shuns Atmel microcontrollers or arduino's or anything. For me, I just started out with pics and it has worked very nicely! I am sure that if I had started out with AVR's that I would still be in the same sort of position

Posted: **Wed May 11, 2011 6:44 am**

brad wrote:Thanks for that extra info Gav. I am certainly not someone who shuns Atmel microcontrollers or arduino's or anything. For me, I just started out with pics and it has worked very nicely! I am sure that if I had started out with AVR's that I would still be in the same sort of position

Same here Brad I started with pics and its working nicely!, just thought I would try the grass on the other side as they say!! hehe!

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