Revelation 20:14 And 2532 death 2288 and 2532 hell 86 were cast 906 into 1519 the lake 3041 of fire 4442. This 3778 is 2076 the second 1208 death 2288.

Hell (86) is not the same word as lake (3041) and fire (4442).

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cf ... JV#conc/14

Hell in the old testament (H7585) is transliterated Sheowl and it means the grave. Hell is eternal but the grave is thought of as the earth. The earth's crust is probably 2 to 20 miles deep and we know with volcanoes what is underneath. The first earth will be passed away so there will be need of a new hell. Whether you interpret it to be a new hell or Gehenna, the problem is that the term "passed away" (g3928 παρέρχομαι parerchomai) indicates "to perish":

Revelation 21:1 ¶ And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Hell is eternal as we will see but Jesus said "I am alive forevermore" and they are the same words translated "forever and ever". If some versions translate God as everlasting then you have no choice but to translate hell as being everlasting because the different translations use the same words for both hell and God. Since the old heavens and the earth will pass away, the old location of hell will be passed away or thrown into the new location which is the lake of fire.

Jesus said,"I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore [eis tous aionas ton aionon] (Rev. 1:17-18, NASB).

Revelation 20:10: "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon]."

Not one of these translations translates "aionion" as anything other than "eternal" or similar.

http://bible.cc/matthew/25-41.htm

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Death and hell delivered up the dead. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire indicating that it isn't the same location.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The people in hell were then cast into the lake of fire indicating a different position.


-p.487, The Revelation, Verse by Verse Study, The Gospel Hour, Inc., Dr. Oliver B. Green.


-p.498, ibid.

John 5:24 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation (judgment) ; but is passed from death unto life.

If it says we shall not come into judgment then where is the judgment to remove us as adopted sons and daughters? If Jesus says we have not come into condemnation (judgment) then why would we be present in the white throne judgment? The verse says 'hath' eternal life. It doesn't say 'might have' or 'could have' and I'll give you an example:

If we can't get into heaven then how would Paul get into heaven because he murdered Christians and the law said that murderers should be put to death (Numbers 35) and that 1 John 3:15 says that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him and Moses who killed an Egyptian (Exodus 2:4) was at the mount of transfiguration (Mark 9:4)? The only way for Moses to be there is for someone to pay our ransom and take our place.

Having a read of all that, we are basically on the same page.



We are both talking about how after judgement, people not found written in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. The way that I understand this from studying the scriptures and from bible teachers is that all those in hades who are not saved, will then be cast into hell for eternity. Whereas you are saying that all those in hell (obviously not saved) will be cast into the lake of fire.

I believe that before the cross, there were two compartments in Hell. One compartment was called Abraham's Bosom where the forgiven went and the other compartment was where the lost went. When Jesus died on the cross, he led captivity captive and emptied out the side of the forgiven.

I believe that when Jesus died on the cross, Jesus already took the wrath of God (my judgment) and penalty for sin so there is no reason for me to have to show up at the White Throne judgment.

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment (g968 βῆμα bēma) seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done, whether [it be] good or bad.

I believe God is going to judge my works or my faithfulness to Him by putting them in the fire and if my works are wood, hay or stubble then they will burn up but if there is something of lasting value then I will get Gold, Silver, or precious stones.

I believe that everyone will give an account but because my sins are already paid for, I can "...come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." (Hebrews 4:16)

I believe that when Adam ate of the tree that we all died:

"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, ....

We are dead in tresspasses and sins until God saves us:

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, ....

Because we're dead, we have to be born a second time or from above to have eternal life.

"...Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."-John 3:3

God offers us a gift to be born a second time so that we can have eternal life.

I absolutely agree!